The dual cooling fans keep running after i turn of my 94 jetta....what needs to be fixed?... On my 94 jetta deisel GL, the two cooling fans keep running after i shut it off and pull out the key. It keeps killing my battery and i have to unplug it everytime i stop somewhere because it just keeps going (it seems to be at full speed too). I was thinking its the relay that needs to be replaced but im not sure.
The temperature isnt the problem because its running at normal temp, its not too hot.
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1) Not a relay but probably a thermostat or some kind of temp sensor. The fans should run until the coolant temp drops to a certain level, then shut off. The sensor that detects coolant temp is bad.
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MichaelS below could be exactly right. Price the parts first, then decide what you want to replace.
I checked RockAuto.com for you. A coolant temp sensor for a '94 diesel Jetta is $7.73. The cooling fan relay is $33.79 for the 4 pin relay only, or $122.79 for the relay module. You make the call what to replace first. - Uncle Bo
2) I disagree with Uncle Bo. I think you've got a bad relay. It's the cheapest thing you can replace, next to a fuse. - MichaelS
3) try the coolant temp sensor.if its ok, then your vehicle is over heating and the sensor will not allow the fans to turn off until temp is within tolerance - David
4) it depends, sometimes it is normal for the fans to run upto a minute after the car is turned off. If they run longer and it happens everytime it probably is the relay sticking... replace the relay in that case. - Stampy Skunk
5) What the other guys aren't saying is that the Jettas had cooling troubles from the start. And what your getting is all of the answers combined, relays-etc this was due to the engine materials iron block and alloy heads all come to these problems.
Had one of the 1st Jettas and what crap 1986 and all the trouble, VW had recalls on there cooling areas and the heater box was part of this area. - DR DEAL
6) could very well be the fan control module, located directly under the coolant bubble. - awdwannabe
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Question 2
What would be the best replacement for a 1958 VW beetle?... The car in question named Albert has more miles on it than a porn star. Albert receives better care than a presidential pet; change the oil every month using oil more expensive than Starbucks coffee. When I drain the oil, I strain it through high-grade cheese cloth, and save any bits of metal (a sign of possible internal problems). Whenever possible, I reassemble this bits and compare the result with the owners parts manual. Recently, the engines shuts off when I turn the lights or windshield wipers on thus restricting travel to sunny days. Time to leave Albert in the back yard with all the old appliances I ever owned. I must have a car with a manual choke. What is the newest vehicle with a manual choke available? Please rush this one; I am walking further everyday than Lincoln did going to school.
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1) The 64 to 67 VW, a bit more reliable bit more power, and still a great we car, get one from the little old lady just around the corner they are still available good luck. - wayne
2) 1st, someone would love your car and breathe life into it. I'd have someone just trouble shoot the electrical system or get the elctrical dvd advertised in the back of Hot VWs. Doesn't sound very serious to me. S0 why do you really want to get rid of such a wondwerful car? - MrNeutral
3) Well, I myself have 8 Volkswagen's, and I would love to buy yours. But
if you don't wish to sell your bug, I'll just have to live with that. If you are looking for something dependable, I would say the Toyota tundra is a good choice. I probably spelled that incorrectly, but I've heard they are really dependable good trucks, and not too bad on fuel either. I live in Las Vegas, and know someone who loves VW'S, and knows how to make them work the way they are supposed to. If you live in or around this area, e-mail me and I'll hook you up. But if you are willing to let your VW go, one of us would love to buy it, okay?
(0\_!_/0) - Bug
4) If you see bits of metal -large enough that you can identify where it comes from....you have a problem. The damage has happened. Who ever rebuilt that engine did not do it right / and it is coming undone -end of story - no ifs,ands or buts.
So I would be tearing that engine apart to put it together(especially if you are noticing nuts coming out in the oil) which would be coming off the connecting rods which hold the pistons to the crankshaft. If a monkey wrench comes out in an oil change, yes, take it apart, yesterday by yourself. It can be done. Get an overhaul kit. which includes all the gaskets you will need to reassemble it. And get a good torque wrench. It will last a lifetime, so no use in buying crap.
Best replacement? Get a repair manual for you VW. Nothing fancy. Mine is just a grey hardcover "Repair your Volkswagen" book. By GW publications. Can get it in a secondhand book store for a buck. It has all the pictures and instruction in there for all the air cooled motor(they are all basically the same) from the first VW to the SuperBeetle. Specs have basically remained the same on everything for tightening bolts to air gap between the ignition points. Or one from Chilton, or Clymer. Or have 2 or three different ones, so you can cross reference them when doing a specific repair. Look through them before you buy for you may notice one has more pictures than the other or one has wiring and the other doesn't. You need that wiring info too. It may look complicated, but it isn't.
Now, looking at your porn star. The engine turns off when you turn on the lights or windshield wipers. I am thinking "What is similar about all 3?" Electricity. They all need it.
Where does electricity come from? The battery. How old is it? Batteries last about 5 or 7 years(if you are lucky). Is it full of corrosion? Do all the cells got enough water in each of them?
Now you are saying, the battery is not needed once the car is running, power is coming from the generator. Yes and no. At idle speed, the generator does not produce enough power to operate the lights and run the engine(which also needs electricity) so the battery is the backup supply. If the battery is down. Then the generator supplies power to the lights and the engine and tries to charge the battery. At high revs it can do that, at idle it can't so something suffers(or they all suffer) And you notice because the engine shuts off.
The generator brushes may be worn out. Drive the car one sunny day to an auto electric shop or maybe WalMart and have them take a look at your generator output. It may not be charging the battery. Once the brushes are worn out they are gone. It is repairable(getting new carbon brushes) but not from Wal~Mart but it is worth knowing which is hooped. The battery may be gone too. Because the generator was not doing its job (because it died a long time ago.) Its main job is to recharge the battery. One supports the other. You need them both. And a properly functioning regulator.
I could go on and on and on. Better you get a manual or two and sit down and read(and understand). You seem to have the time, if you are willing to strain dirty oil in a cheesecloth?? Hindsight is worth 0. Depending on what tools you have and how mechanically inclined you are(hopefully, a little more than changing oil-which any girl can do) and how organized. A weekend job with the right tools. I am talking about a complete overhaul of the engine and proper reassembly and tune up and also checking and fixing if need be the clutch, the starter, and electrical system.
And eyeballing the brake shoes too and shocks.
That is using metric wrenches and sockets, not pliers.
Manual chokes went out in the mid 60's.
Do it right and you only have to do it once. for another couple of years. Do it wrong and you will always be working on it. - Lam Sanders
5) If Albert shuts down when you simply load up the electrical system, I wold look to see if your generator is shorting out and creating such a load that it seizes the engine.
Disconnect Alberts fan belt for a few minutes (no more).run the car and turn on one of the items (lights or wipers). If the engine does NOT shut down the problem lies in your generator.. an easy fix, or the wiring.. also an easy fix. It might be the brushes in the generator but that is unlikely since they would not grab the engine. Remember to rehook the fan belt.. this is important !
As far as a replacement.. I would repair Albert.. keep him warm and cozy and clean and go buy another VW .. 66 or later.
Albert is rather valuable.. if he is in good shape you could likely buy TWO or THREE newer bugs with his value... But you need to continue to take care of him until you sell him.
You can find a new Generator at
JCwhitney.com
or
thesamba.com
good luck and say Hi to Al for me...
. - ca_surveyor
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Question 3
info about 1971 VW Bus?... My roommate wants to buy one, but we aren't sure what the upkeep is like. We don't know much about cars, and don't want to end up spending thousands on just little parts and stuff if anything breaks. Anyone have any experience with this?
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1) Sounds like a Bus is NOT the car for you then... - StL_Stadtroller
2) The parts are not too expensive.They are easier than most cars to work on.They look OK but are under powered.It will have to work its ass off to make 75MPH. Examine it carefully for any rust.They are known for rusting. - Hey You
3) They are like legos and really easy to work on if you have a manual or "How to Keep Your VW Alive" by Muir. They are fun and really cool, even if you will never get above 65 MPH. - The Duke
4) You are talking about a 39 year old vehicle to start with. Parts are going to break. The good news is they are not very expensive and easily replaced. (If you can do the work yourself!) A mechanic will charge you more to replace them than the parts cost. Part of the beauty of the air cooled V Dubs was that you tinkered and maintained them and knew them inside and out as part of the mystique. They are not a "jump in and drive" vehicle. We're talking 3000 mile oil changes and frequent points adjustment. (unless the distributor was updated to electronic) Filter and plugs, belts, rust fighting, etc. (as well as the frequent hug and patting that goes with ownership.) V Dubs become family members rather than transportation, That is why the prices stay up. - dallenmarket
5) If you are mainly using it in the city, every day and extremes of climate it migt be a chaallenge. No air, bulky, manual steering and transmission. - MrNeutral
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Question 4
What wolfrace alloys would look good on mk5 golf?... I really want some wolfrace alloys for my mk5 golf but dont know what would look the best.It's a silver golf btw. Any help would be greatful thanks ;)
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1) I find black wheels suit silver cars better but it's all down to personal choice of course. Can you find someone who has Photoshop (if you haven't go it yourself) and ask them to make some pictures up of your car with different wheels on to see what they look like? - Bill W
2) 18" Shark Gun Metal...hands down if your gonna go with Wolfrace. - Jack
3) I didn't know that the word 'Wolfrace' and the phrase 'look good' could be used in the same sentence. - vavavoom
4) Anything looks better than the steel wheels and plastic trims - CDC
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Question 5
Golf electric windows problem...?... Can anybody tell me what the oblong button in the centre of the electric window controls is supposed to do? Mine aint working!
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1) It is working. It illuminates the sign. Don't press it again if you want the respect of your fellow motorists. - Derke N
2) when you press it only the control on drivers door will work windows so the kids in the back cant put the windows up or down with the buttons on the back doors - ivortskivor
3) Hello
Nearly right
Both front windows will work normally but it cuts the rear ones and you have the 2 back ones to control them
If you check the windows sat in the back and they do not work, Press oblong button then try again if they now work, leave if you want them to stay like that
Andy C - ANDY
4) On my car, it locks all windows, except the drivers. I suppose like many other things, operation varies from make to make. - TM
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